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9/04/10 3:16:08 AM#21
Im playing it max setting and it is running really smooth but the mouse does lag, but that dousent bother me as im useing a 360 controller. Plus your system cant be high end if your suffering so much. http://www.minerwars.com/?aid=YOUR_USER_ID |
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9/04/10 3:26:33 AM#22
First things first, don’t base your Opinion of the game solely on hardware performance. I agree, I am running what was a decent system about 5 years ago, decent enough to run a lot of today top games on high end settings. But one thing everyone needs to understand, that this is not your momma's mmorpg. It eats Dual-core Systems, ATI Radeon 4000 series for breakfast, on reduced settings.
Access your Configuration tools, and Turn down the graphics of the game to Lowest Texture, and lowest Resolution, also change you’re buffering settings to see the game at a rate it is supposed to be. Although There is still some client-server lag because of the sheer numbers in the beta test combined with the developers still working on an Optimization formula that works for a population of this size.
I mean I hear a lot of people saying that they have good gaming rigs, But FFXIV was built with the ideas of the Latest and greatest in mind, so I wasn’t offended when I saw that my system was barely function on the default settings. The Game does not Auto-config your video settings. It is pretty much set to mid-high range.
The Developers themselves also said, that they Made FFXIV engine to be able to compete with computer hardware not even developed yet, so it will age much better, than say FFXI or WoW. So if you’re playing the game on Settings anywhere near high, either your rig is Badass, or you’re killing your machine and you’re beta testing experience.
Furthermore, The game doesn’t Look bad even on the lowest settings, it just doesn’t look like the Cut-scene graphics all the time. But it is manageable, actually on its lowest setting it looks very similar to EQ2.
I am just saying, we all knew when we saw the tech-engine previews, The Benchmark scores, The Min. System Requirements that this game was going to be Resource heavy. Considering that the game has yet to be fully optimized yet I can only say I don’t know, what people were expecting
But really closing arguments, just because you believe your computer should be playing this game on the highest settings, doesn’t mean it actually will, if you see your performance lagging behind, then by all means, Change your settings. I’m sure you have had to do it on other games before this. If your Just above the Min. System requirements, Believe me, your system will reflect that.
Please see more detailed information here:
System requirements
Benchmark score information
Scores of Gaming Enthusiasts Builds for Reference
Intel Core 2 Duo @2.88 Just to be able to play FFXIV. |
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9/04/10 3:31:24 AM#23
Originally posted by natuxatu I agree with this post, But I will say. This game is far from finished as far as they goes. I blame the guys in the Alpha and Beta Tests for not working closer with the Devs on the UI. They need to have shortcuts to get to the important menu's like the inventor and such, I highly suggest anyone playing the beta please send in their questions and Concerns to the Square-Enix Support team to try and get some last minute UI changes. The UI is just too clumpy when having to back and forth from the menu's etc. I've already submitted my suggests to them tho, I suggest everyone else to do the same. Intel Core 2 Duo @2.88 Just to be able to play FFXIV. |
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9/04/10 3:41:43 AM#24
I tried it in the hopes of having something to play while waiting for other games but I didn't like it. While I played the movement of characters or myself didn't lag but my mouse had this odd delay which kept putting me off. I didn't like the fact that your basically forced to read walls of text before doing much after the pretty good cinematics. There was no real guide to tell you where to go unless I wanted to keep bringing up my journal which also had a lag to it. What happened to NPC pointers, and symbols over head? While its old it's a very helpful system. The server I was on was so over crowded that there were no mobs to fight and after 5 mins of walking out of town to find no mobs I gave up. I have a feeling that this game can do well but right now it seems a little rushed and ain't good enough for my money. |
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9/04/10 3:43:51 AM#25
Originally posted by Malchietz Honestly i dont care enough to send in any info. I had no problem with lag/performance, heres my issues.
i cant jump? why the fuck not? space bar is enter chat? ok. theres a 3 foot step. you cant go over it. why not? am i not an 'Adventurer!' as the npcs say? Yet i cant travel over a 3 ft incline. There arent any legitimate areas. its just paths. maybe theres something i didnt walk to but all i saw were winding paths of the same 4 mushroom/ferret looking creatures. (ill keep exploring) Combat is oh so boring. Im lvl 3 and i still have simple slash or w/e its called. Mm the ui. Ive dealt with Darkfall UI and Mortal Online UI, this one makes me grind my teeth though. This is the deal breaker at the moment. There is no way ill play a game with this terrible ui. there are 17 buttons to control the camera view. 17! who the fuck needs that? Im gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say theyll fix it. Mouse sensitivty option isnt in yet either and the only way i can figure to look around is right click. also no option to stay in mouse look mode.
im gonna keep playing. maybe ill find something good to write about. It does look great though. EDIT: while trying to be a good beta tester i looked into where i would go to give my opinion of the ui system and any one in the OB cant use the beta forum. go figure. |
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9/04/10 4:14:35 AM#26
Originally posted by gkb3469 The jump thing bothered me at first. I got used to it after a bit. I have a gaming mouse so I just bumped up the mouse movement speed and it fixed the laggy mouse problem. So for anybody who wants to play with a mouse they could try that. I agree with you on the keyboard to use the camera. You should be able to use all they keys for the camera and convert them to inventory, skills, etc. (So you don't have to go through all the menu's.) You should have more skills by now, you probably just have to add them. The game won't do it automatically for you. |
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9/04/10 4:21:23 AM#27
i just hit 5-6 and im lookin for skills now. a swarm of bees killed me. i teleported back for a 50% reduction to hp for like 2-3 minutes. not bad i guess. i still hate the 4 minute walks down winding paths to get to a quest. |
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9/04/10 4:22:02 AM#28
Originally posted by birdycephon
The above is a common misconception. Criticism is not written for the creators of a work, or even fans of a work. It's written for its readers. I am one such reader, I would read any criticism as long as it's written well - no matter whether I'm interested in the work itself. The writer does not have a responsibility to function as a subset of "production", giving usable feedback to better the work. To better the work is the creators' job. And they have QA for that. And if one is a fan of a work to the degree that he or she doesn't want to see or hear anything scathing about it, I would advise he or she doesn't read or listen to other people. People are prone having opinions; and not necessarily agreeable ones at that. :) |
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9/04/10 4:24:51 AM#29
this threads gone down due to trolling faster then a cheerleader goes down on prom night, thanks all i do enjoy a good laugh, but thats enough already sheesh. |
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9/04/10 4:31:07 AM#30
Personally spealking i kinda like the game. The delay in waiting for the reponse when you open the inventory etc does get a bit tiresome but its not game breaking imo. I dont think i'll play at launch, overcrowded starting areas etc. I may give it a month or so to let SE optimise it further.
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9/04/10 4:33:40 AM#31
Originally posted by Milliecake I concur, this game (like many others) seems to report another expensive pc upgrade which is acceptable for a finished game. However, it would be much less expensive to go with a platform unit if the use of a controller makes game operations easier. Yea, we have some trolls but I would like to hear the counters to the criticisms given. For example, is controller the only operational way to play? Do high end pc's have any problems? Will the content be...less than advertized? The onlyl thing countered here is the lovers compared to the trolls. The best way to counter, in my humbled opinion, is fact in lue of opinions. |
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9/04/10 4:34:06 AM#32
Originally posted by heartlessOriginally posted by tswthoradin The game is not a PS3 port as the PC version can run with superior graphics for example. The control system is okay too if you are playing on half descent system. keyboard or gamepad are definitely the methods I would play by, but mouse does work. Ultimately the problem with Western markets is the WoWtard quotient that has zero tolerance for anything else, but nonetheless I think XIV will be a hit with thoughtful western gamers too. |
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9/04/10 4:34:48 AM#33
Is it me or are all threads for any new mmo that is in beta the same, like this game isent polished and other what not. http://www.minerwars.com/?aid=YOUR_USER_ID |
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9/04/10 4:40:46 AM#34
There is alot of inefficiency in this game engine which I believe will take years to correct, for a title that premiers on pc way before ps3 mouse+keyboard ui should have been a priority its all just showing a lack of forsight on there part.
My pc can handle any other game on max, from Mafia II to GTA 4 and anything inbetween.
My mouse is a Razer Naga mmo gaming mouse My graphics card a nvidia 470gtx My processor a intel q6600 My memory 8gb ddr II My sound card a Xonar Dx2 My hard drive a samsung F1 1.5tb All put together by me in a custom case with a liquid cooling system which allows my processor to run completely stable at 4.2ghz (39c) Its a couple of years old now except for the graphics card, running windows 7 64bit completely updated, its a pure gaming rig, I don't even surfe the web or do email on it, have a seperate pc for those things. I keep everything updated even though the graphics card has a waterblock no game has ever needed me to overclock it. All connected up to a 1920*1080 oled Benq monitor. I've been gaming for 28 years now and mmo'ing since muds the only mmorpg I avoided was wow (tried it and found it too simplified) I don't want to play a game my mother can play and she is a technophobe.
I had high hopes for FF both me and wife preordered the CE but this game is showing a complete lack of respect for pc gamers, I shouldn't haveto have a controller to play an mmo, yes I use a 360 controller for racing games but for mmo's ? The mouse lag the trivial quests the fatigue system the developers are definetly poping some kind of drugs. I will never touch XIV again It was boring, with an interface that made me grind my teeth, I am just greatful I got into beta and saved myself some money
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9/04/10 4:43:12 AM#35
Originally posted by Malchietz
I was in the beta and yes their was thread all over the Beta forum about the UI design etc.,,, dev just did not listen to the testers. All I heard all over the beta forum was from fanboys of the game they don't need your input. Fanboys in my opinion did not want change. At that point I gave up with giving feedback. So as far as I'am concern the game was made for FF XI players/fans. |
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9/04/10 4:45:48 AM#36
Originally posted by calranthe its like you took the words right out of my mouth. My previous post was very similar. But im gonna keep trying. I am finding a few good things and the adventurer in me keeps poking his head out enough for me to wonder whats on the other side of this map.. |
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9/04/10 5:00:28 AM#37
Here, have a list of actual, non-flamey negatives about FFXIV followed up by a palette cleanser of good things and a summary. It's real information, folks, and although it's my interpretation I'd like to think that it's pretty unbiased and experienced.
1. By base level 7 I had run out of quests and guildleves in my area entirely. The next set started at level 10 so it becomes a monster grind of epic calibre much like Ragnarok online (worse than Aion if you are combat-oriented because there aren't even any quests to back up the killing). You can always craft and attempt crafting / gathering guildleves, too, those give experience but are frustrating to learn.. which leads me into...
2. Learning how to do anything in FFXIV is difficult. Learning how to change jobs (just find and buy weapons / crafting weapons), learning how the crafting works, learning how guildleves work.. if you're not familiar with MMOs then you'll have no idea what to do and even if you are there are some things that are so different (non-hand-holdey or non-intuitive, you choose) that difficulties will be had.
3. I ran out of experience as my first-choice job rather quickly. It didn't tell me that I was running out, I just found that experience started dwindling and then went away without anybody telling me.
4. Having to do every interaction through my main menu is awkward. Want to speak to this crystal to do your quests? It comes up in the main menu (like if you pressed escape in most games). Equipment, friends, stats? Main menu. Sorta odd and I've had a lot of people ask me simply how to use an elevator or how to use a crystal.
5. Some things are just.. randomly unintuitive. You can't equip things from your inventory but only by selecting your equipment and statistics from the main menu, choosing an empty spot on yourself or an item you're already wearing, THEN scrolling through your inventory and finding the item to equip. You may be able to do it through the inventory but as far as I've seen most of what you would assume to be right click or additional option activities just don't exist.
6. Possibly the most eye-twingingly annoying thing is, yes, the random time it takes between doing random things. Like pulling out your weapon so you can attack, or sheathing your weapon, or starting to craft. To craft one thing you've got like 6 points where you're waiting for 5 seconds between choosing the complex crafting mechanics.
7. Another thing about crafting that people should be aware of is that.. you just stick random things together and hope that they make something. Or ask somebody how to make something, or look it up. As far as I've seen there's no system to tell people how to make anything, even starting out. Rather brutal. Now on the other side of the fence that's kinda neat. You might randomly invent some new-fangled weapon in the future by combining weird things. Still, the basic things they should tell you what to combine I think, just to get you started.
8. And that brings me back to my final point and re-iteration.. FFXIV doesn't tell you how to do anything. There are rare tutorials but by the time you've found them it's usually too late and you've learned through trial and error or asking or looking it up elsewhere. It's very backwards and oldschool that way. The fact that the game is naturally un-intuitive, does things you don't notice behind your back that hamper your experience (literally) and runs out of quests (or should I say 'quest' and guildleves) rather sets this game back quite a few years in quite a few ways.
After having said all of these negative things I feel that I must let you know why I'm going to keep playing for a bit...
When I was actually doing the main storyline quest I was having a blast. The world felt viceral and real and it felt like a woven tapestry of storytelling and gameplay. There was a lot of reading, but it truly felt like an RPG with other players. The graphics are nice, animations are nice (if a bit slow) and the world itself feels vast and secretive, much like Everquest did long ago. Combat isn't really 'slow'.. it's awkward because of that bit of what may be interface lag but it's also fun. Especially when there's a point to it and it's not just grinding. Classes are varied, experience is granted for everything and you could technically reach maximum base level without killing anything. You'd need a source of money, but you could.
All-in-all it's an interesting throwback to point-and-click adventure, real storytelling, interesting characters around every corner and a realistic fantasy world. Unfortunately it throws you into that world as if you'd already been living in it for a good twenty years and understand exactly how it works already. I feel like playing just to get to the next set of guildleves and find storyline quests but the road in between will be.. brutal. The filler grinding is frightening and worse than anything that I've seen in a long time as far as killing repetitive mobs goes.
I don't think that I can add anything more of my experiences so far. Take the positives and the negatives and hopefully at least one person reads this and takes away a truthful representation of the world in all its glory and shady dealings.
Woo, it's like a review. Maybe I should make my own post. Someone can feel free to do that for me, heheh.
-Some guy Objectivity is delivered with a lack of personality made for the mainstream but never used for the mainstream. |
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9/04/10 5:53:16 AM#38
They did this shit on purpose...a 'Ladybug' just 2 shotted me. 626 hp. |
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9/04/10 5:55:50 AM#39
Originally posted by gkb3469 camera angle = hold down right mouse and pan it, 1 button, just 1 can do anything you need to the camera if you use it, or you can use any gamepad made that has software, 360 ps3 generic pc ones, if its got 2 sticks and 8-12 buttons depending on the d pad options in 14, then you can play entirely on the controller and just use the keyboard to type, yes i know how novel a concept like gaming with a controller is, its just like 100x easier then any games ever been with key and mouse combo, go figure, honestly you guys try to hard to troll instead of doing what we old timers did back in the day, get into the game, find out what works, tune to your liking.
also you get new combat moves and spells every even level 2/4/6/8/10 all the way to max, i believe its 50 atm. you go into actions and traits, select the weapon type, all your moves are in there, you then select what button to assign them too (like basic slash is on 1, you can move it, put new moves on 2 3 4 ect, whatever, fully customizable) |
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9/04/10 5:58:47 AM#40
Originally posted by gkb3469 thats what you get for f*ckin with a lady bug that many levels above you! hehe in final fantasy the sweetest cutest fluffiest thing yould ever wanna snuggle, will eat your face if it wants too. |
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