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  schawo

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Joined: 11/25/06
Posts: 134

 
9/01/10 10:30:36 AM#1

It is perhaps the most comprehensive manual created for any computer games ever.

A Massively article and a long interview with the author:

http://www.massively.com/2010/08/29/eve-evolved-the-industrial-sized-knowledgebase

 

More than 400 pages of pure quality information and some nice graphics. A must have for any EVE pilots. And the best thing, it's FREE.

 

http://www.isktheguide.com/

  cosy

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Joined: 9/15/04
Posts: 3234

EvE Rules #491 you should never, ever attack Russians on winter months

9/01/10 10:41:53 AM#2
anything that is done by a large number of ppl after some time lose profitability

PD:EvEisNot4WoWkids
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  schawo

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Joined: 11/25/06
Posts: 134

 
9/01/10 12:45:52 PM#3
Originally posted by cosy
anything that is done by a large number of ppl after some time lose profitability

 

Wrong thread?

  Malcanis

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Joined: 8/17/09
Posts: 2431

"A very special kind of stupidity"

9/01/10 1:16:51 PM#4
Originally posted by cosy
anything that is done by a large number of ppl after some time lose profitability

 

Try clicking the link before commenting.

Give me liberty or give me lasers

  MaGicBush

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Joined: 1/20/07
Posts: 654

Can't cut this bush.

9/01/10 7:39:11 PM#5

This is a great guide, just noticed mentioned on the Eve forums and started using it. Helped explain alot about Exploration which is the route I am taking this time around after resubbing yesterday :).

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-Currently playing SWTOR.
-Played UO, EQ, Aion, AoC, WOW, War, LoTRO, FFXI, Rift, DFO.

  cosy

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EvE Rules #491 you should never, ever attack Russians on winter months

9/02/10 2:34:40 PM#6
Originally posted by Malcanis
Originally posted by cosy
anything that is done by a large number of ppl after some time lose profitability

 

Try clicking the link before commenting.

take a look on the pdf before commenting.

PD:EvEisNot4WoWkids
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  User Deleted
9/02/10 5:49:15 PM#7

I downloaded it, thumbed through it and it seems like a great guide for newbies, but it didn't really give me any pointers.

 

I'm going to print out a couple chapters though, I hate reading stuff like that on the computer.

  schawo

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Joined: 11/25/06
Posts: 134

 
9/03/10 4:02:44 PM#8
Originally posted by cosy
Originally posted by Malcanis
Originally posted by cosy
anything that is done by a large number of ppl after some time lose profitability

 

Try clicking the link before commenting.

take a look on the pdf before commenting.

take a look on the pdf before commenting.

  cosy

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EvE Rules #491 you should never, ever attack Russians on winter months

9/03/10 6:28:25 PM#9
Originally posted by schawo

take a look on the pdf before commenting.

i did and anyone whit understanding how capitalism work will agree that a ISK guide like that is not the best thing to follow for long term

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  Nu11u5

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Posts: 602

9/04/10 1:44:54 AM#10


Originally posted by cosy


Originally posted by schawo

take a look on the pdf before commenting.


i did and anyone whit understanding how capitalism work will agree that a ISK guide like that is not the best thing to follow for long term

Are you sure you looked at it? Its less a money making guide and much more a general game manual.

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  Sheista

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Joined: 9/30/05
Posts: 1175

9/04/10 1:48:53 AM#11

lol the name is not indicative of what it is.  ISK stands for something.  It's not a 400 page money-making guide.  It's a general game guide.

  cosy

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EvE Rules #491 you should never, ever attack Russians on winter months

9/04/10 5:00:38 AM#12
Originally posted by Sheista

  It's a general game guide.

 you make ships just to stock pile them? or you mine just to have all this mineral safe in a station?
i am sorry if i break your dream but you do that to get ISK

 

 

 

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  schawo

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Joined: 11/25/06
Posts: 134

 
9/04/10 7:03:46 AM#13
Originally posted by cosy
Originally posted by Sheista

  It's a general game guide.

 you make ships just to stock pile them? or you mine just to have all this mineral safe in a station?
i am sorry if i break your dream but you do that to get ISK

 

 

 

It is a game guide. Gameplay consists of several things, just like mining, manufacturing. It never stated anything about profit. I have to break your dream, but the most profitable legal way to earn ISK is to earn a lot of money IRL, and buy ISK through the PLEX system.

  cosy

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EvE Rules #491 you should never, ever attack Russians on winter months

9/04/10 10:48:39 AM#14
Originally posted by schawo
It never stated anything about profit.

 

you dont but the guide does

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  VirusDancer

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Joined: 11/18/04
Posts: 3280

Heroes are about character - not gear.

9/04/10 10:59:37 AM#15

I'm trying to figure out how anybody is arguing against what cosy originally said.

They way I made ISK when there were 10k max logged in was not the same way I made ISK when that hit 20k, 30k, 40k, or more.

The more people doing the same thing over the long run drives down the profit - the supply far outreached the demand on many activities, to the point that it has reached the point it has.

It is funny too, because each time the market begins to sort itself out - CCP adds in a new "feature" to set everything off balance again.  You can follow the patterns.

But that aside...aside, not sure how anybody can disagree with what cosy originally said...perhaps because the truth hurts?

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%

  kurtbarlow

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Joined: 6/20/08
Posts: 30

9/04/10 11:01:35 AM#16
Originally posted by cosy
Originally posted by schawo
It never stated anything about profit.

 

you dont but the guide does

Are you smoking something ?

The name doesnt stand for ingame currency, but "Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase" and it's general game guide, not money making guide.

  schawo

Novice Member

Joined: 11/25/06
Posts: 134

 
9/04/10 1:22:15 PM#17
Originally posted by cosy
Originally posted by schawo
It never stated anything about profit.

 

you dont but the guide does

 I think you know better.

  VirusDancer

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/18/04
Posts: 3280

Heroes are about character - not gear.

9/04/10 2:20:26 PM#18
Originally posted by kurtbarlow
Originally posted by cosy
Originally posted by schawo
It never stated anything about profit.

 

you dont but the guide does

Are you smoking something ?

The name doesnt stand for ingame currency, but "Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase" and it's general game guide, not money making guide.

Everybody that plays EVE knows what ISK is.

Did you notice that I.S.K. appears on the cover and in the prologue before referencing a place you can go to buy GTCs to change into PLEX for ISK?  Each chapter starts with the book being called Industrial Black Book - not Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase.  Besides, were that the true name - it would be ISKB, given that KB is the common abbreviation for knowledge base...seeing that knowledgebase is actually knowledge base - two words.

Much of the information in the book is copyrighted information from CCP themselves with some subjective commentary from the "contributors".

It is dismal bait and switch, likely to turn off more people from the game than to attract them - EVE is already overwhelming enough for the average MMORPGer without throwing a 400+ page manual at them.

Much of the information is easily found from simply doing the tutorials or trying to do something.

The goal of the book is to get people to build up their characters with some friends and head out ot 0.0 to die...it is an ISK making endeavor, for those that contributed to this travesty.

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%

  Sheista

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Joined: 9/30/05
Posts: 1175

9/04/10 2:30:03 PM#19

lol

  MaGicBush

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Joined: 1/20/07
Posts: 654

Can't cut this bush.

9/04/10 3:54:03 PM#20

Lol, love how so many people on this site just argue for the sake of arguing.

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-Played UO, EQ, Aion, AoC, WOW, War, LoTRO, FFXI, Rift, DFO.

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