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Runescape Review: Runescape Re-Review - Edit

New MMORPG.com Reviewer Lori May writes this re-review of the classic MMORPG, Runescape.
Final Score

7

Pros
 Community-Driven Events
 Frequest Updates
 Good Value
 Seasonal Events
 Skill Based Play
Cons
 No Group Play
 Poor PvP System

For many gamers, the mention of Runescape conjures an image low graphics, tedious skill leveling, and a young community (IE: immature players). However, for those of us who have remained loyal to Runescape over the years, the game represents much more: a community which influences new features through content polls and feedback. Seasonal events which are humorous and novel, reliable, quality updates to both the mechanics of the game and the world in which we play.

Runescape is one of the few games on the market which has gone through a complete overhaul, essentially creating a sequel with which players could transfer current characters without starting over. The transition of moving everyone from Runescape (now referred to as Runescape Classic) to this new version of the game allowed for many improvements; graphic upgrades, changes to interface, and the elimination of certain in-game requirements (such as sleeping). The original version of Runescape is still accessible, for any players seeking a nostalgic escape.

Graphics: How To Not Judge A Book By It's Cover

Originally set in a fixed-size window, Runescape has updated their game's graphics over the years to include alternate camera angles, realistic water, and moving shadows. While this java-based browser game remains limited in its visual quality, Jagex has continuously pushed the capabilities of the Java engine to deliver the most attractive game possible. This includes two major updates to the graphics engine within the last year alone.

Players have also seen an increase in character customization over the years; new hair styles, colors and textures have been added in addition to "costume" options and other wardrobe features.

The landscape, monsters and NPCs have also frequently received makeovers. "Lumbridge," the starting location for new players, was one of the first towns to be completely renovated. These changes often complimented an implementation of an "Achievement Diary;" a list of special objectives players can complete at each given town. Many locations are still pending selection to be featured for one of these additions.

Community: Player Interaction and a Personal Niche Among Millions

Unlike most MMORPGs, Runescape doesn't give the illusion of listening to the players - Jagex actually does take user opinions into account. They implemented "guaranteed content polls" to allow their membership to immediately, and transparently, influence new content. One example of which was the naming of a new Slayer monster, and the naming of one of the pubs in the world.

Another update that Jagex added to the game which I have not encountered in any other MMORPG is what they call the "Tools for Games" feature. This includes various items such as voting hats, checkpoints for creating races and tools for hide-and-seek. These additions allow players to create their own games within the world, a common inclination among player clans.

Although the game does not offer "grouping" in the traditional sense, it does allow for "multi-combat areas" where the one-person-per-monster rule is lifted, allowing folks to collaborate in killing attempts. This allows for a high volume of "solo-ability," which is often a complaint among players in other MMORPGs. Being forced to resort to PUGs (Pick-Up-Groups) to complete tasks isn't a concern on Runescape.

Another aspect of Runescape which holds strong appeal to many players is the skill-based system. The "goal" isn't to reach level 60 and amass rare items; a member can decide to focus on all skills, or merely excel in a given few. The range is from 1-99, with a sliding scale of experience. This allows for every character to be unique to the player's whims; you can focus on melee, or magic, or neglect both "combat" skills and be a simple fisherman.

The flip side of this coin, of course, is that many skills can become tedious. Gaining skill mastery to level 99 is a reflection of dedication (and a multitude of hours) in that ability; having skill 99 in numerous skills is often joked to symbolize a player with entirely too much time on their hands.

Free-2-Play, Availability, and Performance

Runescape continues to offer a huge variety of play to its "F2P" members; without paying the monthly fee (which is currently set at $5.95 per month), players are allowed access to the majority of skills and most of the content under each ability. Subscribing provides access to an additional nine skills, members-only servers, and a world which is suddenly three times larger. Arguably, this is one of the biggest "P2P" upgrades while being offered at one of the lower subscription rates.

Offering over 150 worlds with locations ranging across the globe, the universal access to your character eliminates the problem of having friends and family already established in the game - on a different server! They've also implemented server "themes," making it quick and easy to find a place full of other players with the same objectives.

The java-based play also sets Runescape apart; which allows users with slower connections and older computers access to a game when they otherwise may have failed to run, unlike other more graphic-intensive alternatives.

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More Runescape Features:

Runescape - The New Starter Zone Interview Interview added on Monday April 23
Runescape - The Bot-Busters General Article added on Thursday November 17
Runescape - Live Dungeoneering at RuneFest General Article added on Wednesday November 16

More Features:

The Secret World - Hell Hurts Preview added on Thursday May 24
Rift - Conquest - Open World, Three Faction PvP Interview added on Thursday May 24
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Update 1.3 and Beyond Interview added on Thursday May 24
 
 
AmazingAvery writes:

RS had the PvP licked in 2000/2001 was a more ideal system then and a lot of the reason why it became popular so fast. Shame they destroyed and alienated a large portion of their playerbase.

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dragon1613 writes:

If you can get pass the graphics the game is acctually pretty amazing content wize. There is no other game that I am aware of that has soooo much stuff to do. And it has REAL quests that require thinking and planning (wich is a huge break from those cookie-cutter ones). They did really turn me away with the whole money limit thing (since I was a very wealthy merchant back in the day... :P) and the pvp aspect being ruined. But all in all, the game is really great for anyone wanting casual play, or a game between games. Unfortunetly for me, it was my first MMO and kind of ruined all other MMO's for me as they just can't compete with the content that runescape offers.

 

Now imagine this, runescape with WASD movement with great graphics, decent PvP system, no trade limit and polished just as well as WoW = dream game..

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1/27/10 1:50:54 PM
 
sadeisinsane writes:

I have to say even though the game is limited by its graphics, it does offer a lot of different things to do, and some of the various features it has I find really appealing and wish more MMOs out there would use them.  I only play at work though, because of the stuff it doesn't have like graphics, and some of the more common functionality in the newer MMOs out there.

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1/27/10 2:00:10 PM
 
PhelimReagh writes:

The changes to combat RWT turned a very social and interactive MMO into a single player RPG with a chatbox.

 

I personally would welcome the RWT back if it meant turning the game into an MMO again, complete with giving stuff to friends and newbies, as well as that old full loot PvP.

 

It's a totally different game nowadays. Still a good value at $6 per month, but just not the same as it once was and could have been.

 

Had the folks at Jagex taken the tens of millions they threw away on the failed "Mechscape" and had put it into dealing with the RWT in a non-game-breaking fashion, the game would probably have two million paying subscribers now instead of the sub one million they have now.

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1/27/10 2:16:44 PM
 
Sinella writes:
Originally posted by dragon1613

If you can get pass the graphics the game is acctually pretty amazing content wize. There is no other game that I am aware of that has soooo much stuff to do. And it has REAL quests that require thinking and planning (wich is a huge break from those cookie-cutter ones). They did really turn me away with the whole money limit thing (since I was a very wealthy merchant back in the day... :P) and the pvp aspect being ruined. But all in all, the game is really great for anyone wanting casual play, or a game between games. Unfortunetly for me, it was my first MMO and kind of ruined all other MMO's for me as they just can't compete with the content that runescape offers.

 

Now imagine this, runescape with WASD movement with great graphics, decent PvP system, no trade limit and polished just as well as WoW = dream game..

 

My thoughts and feelings exactly.

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1/27/10 2:19:58 PM
 
Devour writes:

Pros
Community-Driven Events
Frequest Updates
Good Value
Seasonal Events
Skill Based Play



Cons
No Group Play
Poor PvP System
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Seasonal events are a positive major enough to be mentioned, now? And why was the hours upon hours of thrombosis inducing click and click gameplay not put in the Cons section? Or the controlled economy which means you can't help your friends? Nevermind that the "Frequest Updates" are coming less and less frequently and often with far less content, nowadays? Or any of the other HUNDREDS of flaws with the game? It's sad that MMORPG.com is so unwilling to review an MMO adequately, for what I assume is fear of internet backlash. Really, you do not do your readers justice when you let people not post the negatives in your "official" reviews.

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Comnitus writes:
Originally posted by Devour

Pros
Community-Driven Events
Frequest Updates
Good Value
Seasonal Events
Skill Based Play



Cons
No Group Play
Poor PvP System
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Seasonal events are a positive major enough to be mentioned, now? And why was the hours upon hours of thrombosis inducing click and click gameplay not put in the Cons section? Or the controlled economy which means you can't help your friends? Nevermind that the "Frequest Updates" are coming less and less frequently and often with far less content, nowadays? Or any of the other HUNDREDS of flaws with the game? It's sad that MMORPG.com is so unwilling to review an MMO adequately, for what I assume is fear of internet backlash. Really, you do not do your readers justice when you let people not post the negatives in your "official" reviews.

You need to hover over the icons, too - monotony is included in the "Cons" section.

I can still help my friends, but honestly, they're too busy making their own money (since it's pretty easy to do so in RuneScape with just a couple of good skills).

Frequent updates coming less and less? Excuse me, they just released another Grandmaster Quest and did a nearly complete overhaul of Barbarian Assault. Perhaps they should only update once every couple of months like other MMOs.

HUNDREDS of flaws? Now you sound like Al Gore saying the world will melt unless we all stop breathing. List them. There are certainly negatives, which the article's author kept mentioning, but there are also positives which you seem to ignore.

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PhelimReagh writes:
Originally posted by Devour

Pros
Community-Driven Events
Frequest Updates
Good Value
Seasonal Events
Skill Based Play



Cons
No Group Play
Poor PvP System
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Seasonal events are a positive major enough to be mentioned, now? And why was the hours upon hours of thrombosis inducing click and click gameplay not put in the Cons section? Or the controlled economy which means you can't help your friends? Nevermind that the "Frequest Updates" are coming less and less frequently and often with far less content, nowadays? Or any of the other HUNDREDS of flaws with the game? It's sad that MMORPG.com is so unwilling to review an MMO adequately, for what I assume is fear of internet backlash. Really, you do not do your readers justice when you let people not post the negatives in your "official" reviews.

 

You kinda have to take what was written with a grain of salt.

 

Community-driven events is code for "players have to make up ways to keep the thousands of hours of grinding bearable".

"Frequent updates" code for "releases 1 hour of content every month, as opposed to hours of repeatable challenging content you get in real MMOs"

"Skill based play" code for for "the game has 24 skills that largely require no actual skill and can be-done AFK. There is no skill at all required in playing the game."

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1/27/10 2:57:56 PM
 
maxkill42 writes:

Id like to know what kind of graphics are expected from a java mmorpg??

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1/27/10 3:18:25 PM
 
Devour writes:
Originally posted by Comnitus

You need to hover over the icons, too - monotony is included in the "Cons" section.

I can still help my friends, but honestly, they're too busy making their own money (since it's pretty easy to do so in RuneScape with just a couple of good skills).

Frequent updates coming less and less? Excuse me, they just released another Grandmaster Quest and did a nearly complete overhaul of Barbarian Assault. Perhaps they should only update once every couple of months like other MMOs.

HUNDREDS of flaws? Now you sound like Al Gore saying the world will melt unless we all stop breathing. List them. There are certainly negatives, which the article's author kept mentioning, but there are also positives which you seem to ignore.

It's more than monotonous. And the fact it's actually handwaved in the review...

Not to any real extent. When you're able to trade things that matter to a newbie to a newbie, they're often at the same level as you or better and don't need it.

lol. "Another grandmaster quest and overhauled the loot for a minigame that was already there." Let's see how far apart the content updates for Runescape have been, and how much they have contributed:

Game Updates Barbarian Assault Improvements 19-Jan-2010 - Very little added, really, some new WEAPON COLOURS to an old weapon. OMFGWTFBBQSOCOOL
Game Updates Agility Benefits for Fishing, Hunter and Thieving 19-Jan-2010 - Why was this seperated from the other post? They're a single update.
Game Updates Nomad’s Requiem 11-Jan-2010 - Reward is crap, can't be bothered looking at the quest. Probably another "fetch this, kill high level mob, fetch that, do puzzle as planned out on tip.it".
Game Updates Kuradal's Dungeon 08-Dec-2009 - First off, a month between these two updates? Wow. Especially since this update is just a cavern with mobs that Jagex couldn't even be bothered to reskin put in.
Game Updates The Temple at Senntisten 03-Dec-2009 - Appears to be an awful quest.
Game Updates Potions, Spells and Runes 17-Nov-2009 - Over three weeks between this content update and the one above, looks like Jagex is making a habit of it. Enormously disappointing update, again. A few more potions, four extra spells and a few rune changes. YAWN.

I prefer even WoW's "updates every few months that entertain you for a few months" compared to this "Big quest every month with crap updates inbetween!"

And, yes, it has hundreds of problems. It is PLAGUED with problems.

EDIT: I'd go so far as to say one of the few, if not the only, decent things about Runescape is the artstyle of it's artists. Those pictures are pretty bad arse.

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1/27/10 3:25:29 PM
 
Djfusion writes:

Hate it or not, its by far the best Browser MMORPG out right now. Nothing comes close.

Sure you can complain about the "small" updates, but atleast they are always working on it, thats more to say than other Free MMOs.

I applaud Jagex for staying so strong for so long and making such a huge BROWSER mmo.

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1/27/10 3:58:21 PM
 
tro44_1 writes:

RS is the greatest Sandbox MMO of all time!!! And it happen to be F2P for crying out Loud

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1/27/10 4:25:52 PM
 
warriorswar writes:

IMO the game turned into a theme-park with all these RWT updates.

Runescape was a very fun sandbox with full-loot, a lot of players content & interactions, you was able to do whatever you wanted, creating your own "activity".

It still a extremly rich world, but all these restrictions removed the freedome keeping all thier veteran away from the game.

Now I play another sandbox called  Darkfall, but i miss this rich world and these good old days <3,  sometimes I connect for 5 minutes just for nostalgy.

 

 

 

 

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1/27/10 5:08:33 PM
 
Sup3rnova writes:

Runescape Classic is not open at all they locked in back in 2004-2005 so that new characters couldnt be created which resulted in the downfall of the game.

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1/27/10 5:29:22 PM
 
PhelimReagh writes:
Originally posted by Sup3rnova

Runescape Classic is not open at all they locked in back in 2004-2005 so that new characters couldnt be created which resulted in the downfall of the game.

 

They recently re-opened Runescape Classic for new players in November for a two week period. They plan to re-open Classic to new entries for two weeks every six months from now on.

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1/27/10 5:48:52 PM
 
Devour writes:
Originally posted by tro44_1

RS is the greatest Sandbox MMO of all time!!! And it happen to be F2P for crying out Loud

Have you ever played a sandbox that isn't Runescape?

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Originally posted by Djfusion

Hate it or not, its by far the best Browser MMORPG out right now. Nothing comes close.

Sure you can complain about the "small" updates, but atleast they are always working on it, thats more to say than other Free MMOs.

I applaud Jagex for staying so strong for so long and making such a huge BROWSER mmo.
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Therein lies the problem. It USED to be one of the best browser MMOs, but now - to many people - the "fixes" that Jagex inflicted on the game have ruined it beyond all repair. It is now called, even by Jagex themselves, a transition MMO for kids.

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1/27/10 7:07:43 PM
 
nate1980 writes:

I think Runescape is a fantastic game. The quests in Runescape are far more immersive and entertaining than any other MMORPG on the market. I also like their skill-based system. However, I didn't last long in Runescape, because their death penalty is rather severe for my tastes.

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1/27/10 8:03:21 PM
 
Mequellios writes:

 I loved Runescape. Yeah, it was a grind, but what MMO isn't in one way or another? I only quit because all my friends quit. If they had more gritty graphics, I think it would appeal to more people. They kinda went with the whimsical fantasy look.

Either way, I'll jump back in from time to time. There's always something to do. Playing/competing with friends is a must to really enjoy this game. I was a member for 4 years, before I finally quit. (and I still haven't quit entirely).

Also, you forgot to mention that they have PvP worlds.

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1/27/10 8:03:47 PM
 
Suomalainen1 writes:

Runescape is one of the best MMORPG's there are. Instead of just trying to be funny, it is. The quests in WoW players can only be jealous about  the quests in RS as they are much more complex and intricate than "go kill 20 kobolds" -type of quests. RS beats WoW in many other categories too. Go RS!!

 

P.S. It's not "Guild Wars" , it's "Castle Wars"  >_<

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1/28/10 1:13:24 AM
 
mindw0rk writes:

 CCP allows EVE players influence the game in more ways

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1/28/10 2:18:51 AM
 
tehikk writes:

All Jagex would need to do is:

A) Remove trading limits.

B) Get better graphics.

C) Add Guild and Party Systems.

D) Make the world a tad bigger.

E) Return PvP Wilderness to it's former glory.

 

And they'd have a huge hit on their hands.

When I say get better graphics, I'm thinking WoW or Allods, seeing as how those run on most computers pretty damn well.

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1/28/10 2:33:41 AM
 
Merit10 writes:

 I originally started playing Runescape back when RS classic was the only Runescape out there. I stuck with it, got some skills pretty high up there. I think my best was my Ranged skill at level 83. I mostly played around 2003/2004. To the person who said Runescapes has the most immersive quests in the MMORPG market must have an odd perception of the word immersive. Have you played Lord of the Rings Online? Now that is quest immersion (when you aren't doing the average collect/bounty quests). I might have been out a few years but it couldn't have changed that much.

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Sinella writes:
Originally posted by Merit10

 I originally started playing Runescape back when RS classic was the only Runescape out there. I stuck with it, got some skills pretty high up there. I think my best was my Ranged skill at level 83. I mostly played around 2003/2004. To the person who said Runescapes has the most immersive quests in the MMORPG market must have an odd perception of the word immersive. Have you played Lord of the Rings Online? Now that is quest immersion (when you aren't doing the average collect/bounty quests). I might have been out a few years but it couldn't have changed that much.

I haven't played LOTRO, but the quests of Runescape are the best i have ever seen...in other MMOs people hardly reads the quests text since its so boring and always the same. In RS u cant complete the quest if u dont read it, and they are so funny that i usually laughed out loud when i was reading it. A quest where u have to spy on the penguin mafia and for that purpose u have to craft ur own clockwork penguin suit and u see urself  shrinking and walking inside of the penguin suit is definitely hilarious. Rs was the only MMO for me where i did the quests not for xp, but to get fun.

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1/28/10 6:36:35 AM
 
Rockgod99 writes:

I sometimes play RS at work during my breaks.

It's a fun game.

Kinda cool to have a skillbased sandbox browser game.

Only other f2p sandbox I can think of is Mabinogi but that game isnt as accessible.

 

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1/28/10 7:06:51 AM
 
macburl writes:

 Great review! there were some minor flaws with it (you said there were two combat skills, when its actualy three [ranged] and to a certain extent four with summoning) anyway, ive been playing this game since 2005 i think, and it was my first MMO. after a few years mom decided that i was going to quit... so i looked around for a new MMO. there wasnt much free content back then and i couldnt find anything that even came close to what i expected from Runescape. runescape was really the best mmo i have ever played! one of the things i came into contact with was the common "kill 20 kobolds" type quest, which i discovered in Maplestory. my first thought was that the quest writers were just really bad, but looking around, thats the expected level of content! Runescape however has imaginative, fun quests! when i finaly killed elvarg the dragon in the biggest F2P quest i was so exited, cause i had worked on it for days! helping my brother mine iron and coal for steel nails, venturing into the wilderness for planks, etc. 

like everyone else i find the game ot be a bit tamer now... but with the addition of the trade limits (i was just starting to merchant, and had doubled my cash >.>) and the PvP being removed (so much fun while it lasted : D) it just began to feel like a really civilized world... something i did NOT sign up for :p i left for a while and looked at other games, still none as good as RS and finaly came back for the Skilling and the community... i've always played mmos solo since my siblings quit and as of late i've been playing The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion but i still log in every once in a while to go PvPing with my freind...

 

woah, sorry for the nostalgic text wall :p

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1/28/10 8:08:17 AM
 
Comnitus writes:
Originally posted by Merit10

 I originally started playing Runescape back when RS classic was the only Runescape out there. I stuck with it, got some skills pretty high up there. I think my best was my Ranged skill at level 83. I mostly played around 2003/2004. To the person who said Runescapes has the most immersive quests in the MMORPG market must have an odd perception of the word immersive. Have you played Lord of the Rings Online? Now that is quest immersion (when you aren't doing the average collect/bounty quests). I might have been out a few years but it couldn't have changed that much.

Indeed, LotRO has some great quests. I'm playing it now. While they may be more immersive (the storytelling is better), I've always felt that RS quests are more of an adventure. LotRO quests, except most of the Book quests, should be called tasks. They're the same as WoW and nearly every other MMO. Yet, while LotRO probably has 10x the "quests" that RS does, RS has better quality in most of them.

RS quests (if you choose not to use a walkthrough) can be quite challenging. Some are easy, of course, but I enjoy the harder ones because of both their difficulty and the fact that they're mostly tied into a story line. The Plague City/Elf chain, the Myreque in Morytania, the... er, well, not one of my favorites, but still... Lost City chain, and now epic, world lore quests like While Guthix Sleeps. I don't know, maybe they're really all the same stuff and they're not that great, but I'll tell you what. Every time I do an RS quest, I feel like I'm going on a real adventure (I need to be skilled beforehand or I can't complete the quest, I need to prepare items, I need to use my brain, etc). And I think that's how quests are supposed to feel. Quality over quantity, please.

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1/28/10 8:17:01 AM
 
Devour writes:
Originally posted by Suomalainen1

Runescape is one of the best MMORPG's there are. Instead of just trying to be funny, it is. The quests in WoW players can only be jealous about  the quests in RS as they are much more complex and intricate than "go kill 20 kobolds" -type of quests. RS beats WoW in many other categories too. Go RS!!

 

P.S. It's not "Guild Wars" , it's "Castle Wars"  >_<

Does Runescape have ANYTHING as good at this : Icecrown Citadel Gunship Battle

Oh, here's the best of Runescape PvE: Chaos Elemental

I really doubt it, in all of their quests. Hell, some of the quests can be as fun as this, including bombing mob towns, doing specific things during boss fights etc etc.

You've never played WoW and don't deny it.

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1/28/10 9:46:37 AM
 
PhelimReagh writes:
Originally posted by Devour
Originally posted by Suomalainen1

Runescape is one of the best MMORPG's there are. Instead of just trying to be funny, it is. The quests in WoW players can only be jealous about  the quests in RS as they are much more complex and intricate than "go kill 20 kobolds" -type of quests. RS beats WoW in many other categories too. Go RS!!

 

P.S. It's not "Guild Wars" , it's "Castle Wars"  >_<

Does Runescape have ANYTHING as good at this : Icecrown Citadel Gunship Battle

Oh, here's the best of Runescape PvE: Chaos Elemental

I really doubt it, in all of their quests. Hell, some of the quests can be as fun as this, including bombing mob towns, doing specific things during boss fights etc etc.

You've never played WoW and don't deny it.

I've played both Runescape and WoW (Several level 80s) and WoWs quests, while there are many, are certainly nowhere near as interesting or engaging as most of Runescape's quests.

 

Then again, Runescape doesn't pretend to compete with WoW on Raiding, since there really is none in Runescape. However, you're going to need to update your knowledge of Runescape a bit. There are far more challenging PvE boss encounters than the Chaos Elemental.

 

Sounds like you've never played Runescape, and don't deny it ;-)

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1/28/10 10:21:10 AM
 
Devour writes:
Originally posted by PhelimReagh

I've played both Runescape and WoW (Several level 80s) and WoWs quests, while there are many, are certainly nowhere near as interesting or engaging as most of Runescape's quests.

Then again, Runescape doesn't pretend to compete with WoW on Raiding, since there really is none in Runescape. However, you're going to need to update your knowledge of Runescape a bit. There are far more challenging PvE boss encounters than the Chaos Elemental.

Sounds like you've never played Runescape, and don't deny it ;-)

WoW raiding = Runescape's questing, to put it simply. It's possible to compare the two. And, yes, I know there's some "God Fight Dungeon", but the videos for it are awful and filled with mobs that seem to be very little.

Considering most of Runescape's quests are pure filler, too, ( sheep farmer quest being an example ) I find it hilarious when people say, "MY GOD RUNESCAPE QUESTS ARE SO GOOD".

WoW Epic Quest - Try and note this isn't the end of the quest.
Apparently Runescape's "Hardest" Quest

I think I know what I prefer.

I haven't played Runescape for a long time, no, but it seems to have gotten steadily worse since I left.

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1/28/10 10:33:34 AM
 
Sinella writes:

WoW raiding = Runescape's questing, to put it simply. It's possible to compare the two. And, yes, I know there's some "God Fight Dungeon", but the videos for it are awful and filled with mobs that seem to be very little.


 

U clearly have no idea about the quests in RS. There are a lot of them where u dont even have to wear an armor, since there is no fight...so u cant compare them with raiding. But as a WOW fan i guess killing means the only fun for u, no wonder u find RS boring :) Investigating crimes, spying, solving puzzles and using ur brain is much more challenging than hitting buttons to kill.

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1/28/10 10:47:51 AM
 
Devour writes:
Originally posted by Sinella

U clearly have no idea about the quests in RS. There are a lot of them where u dont even have to wear an armor, since there is no fight...so u cant compare them with raiding. But as a WOW fan i guess killing means the only fun for u, no wonder u find RS boring :) Investigating crimes, spying, solving puzzles and using ur brain is much more challenging than hitting buttons to kill.

Because I'm not an avid roguelike / Dwarf Fortress player, am I? Hurr.

The puzzles are things a five year old could do. ( Really. ) And, even if they can't, they just go to an easily findable Runescape site and get a walkthrough. Which, considering the popularity of the sites, I suspect the vast majority of players do.

They are comparable to raiding quite easily. It's about having your skill level ( gear / talent spec in WoW ) at a certain place for a certain skill and doing obvious actions. There's no brain usage in it at all. An example : Monkey Madness. The main danger in that quest seems to be... Getting killed by things? How surprising.

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1/28/10 11:13:25 AM
 
Bobthesaler writes:

I've played this game about 7 years, before finally quitting. The biggest problem with this game is there really is no high level content. Sure it's nice hitting the max level and getting a few cape, but theirs no challenge.

 

EVERYTHING is doable by the level of 90 or so, giving those who worked to get those extra 40-48 combat levels, a giant middle finger to the face.

 

I understand this game is meant for casual gamers, but the lack of anything really speciall for there most divoted players, really ticks me off.

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1/28/10 8:06:04 PM
 
Palo_god writes:
Originally posted by Comnitus
Originally posted by Devour

Pros
Community-Driven Events
Frequest Updates
Good Value
Seasonal Events
Skill Based Play



Cons
No Group Play
Poor PvP System
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Seasonal events are a positive major enough to be mentioned, now? And why was the hours upon hours of thrombosis inducing click and click gameplay not put in the Cons section? Or the controlled economy which means you can't help your friends? Nevermind that the "Frequest Updates" are coming less and less frequently and often with far less content, nowadays? Or any of the other HUNDREDS of flaws with the game? It's sad that MMORPG.com is so unwilling to review an MMO adequately, for what I assume is fear of internet backlash. Really, you do not do your readers justice when you let people not post the negatives in your "official" reviews.

You need to hover over the icons, too - monotony is included in the "Cons" section.

I can still help my friends, but honestly, they're too busy making their own money (since it's pretty easy to do so in RuneScape with just a couple of good skills).

Frequent updates coming less and less? Excuse me, they just released another Grandmaster Quest and did a nearly complete overhaul of Barbarian Assault. Perhaps they should only update once every couple of months like other MMOs.

HUNDREDS of flaws? Now you sound like Al Gore saying the world will melt unless we all stop breathing. List them. There are certainly negatives, which the article's author kept mentioning, but there are also positives which you seem to ignore.

And here we have a shill ladies and gentlemen. You can hardly help your friends in this game, and yes they hardly ever update the game compared to how much they used to. The updates are also of much poorer quality then they were in the past.

Barbarian assault got a small update not even worthy of being called a bad patch. It was just a new reward where they changed the color scheme of one of the weapons which probably took them five minutes in paint, an armor set nerf, and a worthless new staff that almost nobody uses.

Grandmaster quest? Releasing a short master quest with a bad plot and decent boss monster a “Grandmaster quest” does not make. The author of this article wrote this review with rose colored glasses.

 

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1/29/10 10:49:57 PM
 
Palo_god writes:

The article tried to paint too good of a picture for the “new” runescape and ignored many of the game breaking additions they added into the game, and the article didn’t cover the ones that they did mention close to enough. This article sounded more like an advertisement then a game review.

The game hit it’s prime around 2006 and then just went downhill from there. Early rsc and rs2 in 2006 were the best times to play this game. Now the game is just crap.

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1/29/10 10:50:33 PM
 
ab29x writes:
Originally posted by Devour
Originally posted by Suomalainen1

Runescape is one of the best MMORPG's there are. Instead of just trying to be funny, it is. The quests in WoW players can only be jealous about  the quests in RS as they are much more complex and intricate than "go kill 20 kobolds" -type of quests. RS beats WoW in many other categories too. Go RS!!

 

P.S. It's not "Guild Wars" , it's "Castle Wars"  >_<

Does Runescape have ANYTHING as good at this : Icecrown Citadel Gunship Battle

Oh, here's the best of Runescape PvE: Chaos Elemental

I really doubt it, in all of their quests. Hell, some of the quests can be as fun as this, including bombing mob towns, doing specific things during boss fights etc etc.

You've never played WoW and don't deny it.

 

Holy fanboy!

Easy there, Killer.  Kind of embarrassing for you acting like that.

People have this thing, It's called taste.  Brace yourself! It MIGHT differ from yours.  I know right? <gasp>

In my opinion, there is nothing challenging or refreshing about WoW.  Everybody else who loves it, more power to you.

 

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1/29/10 11:14:44 PM
 
Bainwalker writes:

This game was popular among a lot of people I know when we were all in middle school, that was many years ago and what truly killed the game for me was the movement from an open pvp world to a "you can't attack him unless you're in the wilderness zone" idea.  The game before then was thrilling, there was a sense of danger.  That was lost.  The final nail in the coffin was the P2P being added in.  There are just so many better options out there that paying for RS is a joke. 

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2/01/10 11:35:52 AM
 
Dwarvish writes:
Originally posted by Stradden

New MMORPG.com Reviewer Lori May writes this re-review of the classic MMORPG, Runescape.

For many gamers, the mention of Runescape conjures an image low graphics, tedious skill leveling, and a young community (IE: immature players). However, for those of us who have remained loyal to Runescape over the years, the game represents much more: a community which influences new features through content polls and feedback. Seasonal events which are humorous and novel, reliable, quality updates to both the mechanics of the game and the world in which we play.

Runescape is one of the few games on the market which has gone through a complete overhaul, essentially creating a sequel with which players could transfer current characters without starting over. The transition of moving everyone from Runescape (now referred to as Runescape Classic) to this new version of the game allowed for many improvements; graphic upgrades, changes to interface, and the elimination of certain in-game requirements (such as sleeping). The original version of Runescape is still accessible, for any players seeking a nostalgic escape.

Read the Runescape Re-Review.


 

   I hadn't given any thought to trying the game but the writer's comment:

skill(s) featured.

Another popular update remains the addition of "Mini-Games." Added as a break in the monotony of skilling, activities such as "Guild Wars" allow the player a much needed change in their routine. Most of these Mini-Games offer skill experience or item incentives, enabling the player to further their personal objectives through alternative means
 

 

 This is encouraging. To many game don't have these 'little' things that can re-envigorate interest and provide something differrent to do. GW did do a great job with this in all the special holidays gaming and a constant stream of side quests available. It kept me there for much longer than I would have thought possible and I still pop back in for Winersday along with the Canthan New Year elebrations. They are like mini expansions.  Sounds like RS is on the right track.

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2/01/10 8:53:52 PM
 
rensta writes:

 RS for ever!!!

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2/01/10 11:16:30 PM
 
Dawnherald writes:
Originally posted by ab29x

Holy fanboy!

Easy there, Killer.  Kind of embarrassing for you acting like that.

People have this thing, It's called taste.  Brace yourself! It MIGHT differ from yours.  I know right? <gasp>

In my opinion, there is nothing challenging or refreshing about WoW.  Everybody else who loves it, more power to you.


 

Let me prefix this by saying I don't play WoW anymore due to the monotony of it.

However, a few of my friends ( three of them, in fact ) were Runescape addicts. I tried to get them to play WoW pre-TBC, but they were having none of it, since they were dead certain that WoW was just a more costly version of Runescape with a bit better graphics. Finally, one day in TBC, I got them to play it, and they are now heavily addicted to it, even after I've quit.

I expect the vast majority of Runescape players that bash WoW are like this, ignorant of what the game actually is, and yet still touting the virtues of Runescape even after everything that made it interesting was destroyed by Jagex in their wankfest attempt at making a blockbuster kiddy MMO.

( And there's something challenging and / or refreshing about Runescape? )

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2/03/10 6:00:18 AM
 
LostGaming writes:

It's a pretty fun game, I played it for awhile....

 

But the community is just awful, if you're a part of it you probably don't notice though. 

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3/10/10 6:30:19 PM
 
Battlestorm writes:


Originally posted by Djfusion
Hate it or not, its by far the best Browser MMORPG out right now. Nothing comes close.
Sure you can complain about the "small" updates, but atleast they are always working on it, thats more to say than other Free MMOs.
I applaud Jagex for staying so strong for so long and making such a huge BROWSER mmo.

While I do think Runescape is a "cute" little browser game, I'd have to argue against it being the greatest. I've played many browser MMO's (not that there are millions out there) and I have to say that my favorite, by far, is Earth Eternal.

Earth Eternal character controls are exactly like the best of all MMO's, it has decent graphics (amazing for a browser), clever little avatars and creatures and the typical run of various (though not entirely unoriginal) skills and quests. Runescape does have it's benefits and I will say that it is more original in its style, but I certainly wouldn't give it the highest mark.

I have noticed that Runescape fans are A LOT like Mac fan-boys/girls with their die-hard defense and over-exaggeration of the games originality and quality, but let's be honest here . . . the graphics and animations are sub-par in todays host of free online MMO's (browser or otherwise), that's before we get into it's drawbacks such as grouping, farming/exploit fixes and PvP content.

That said, I will give it this, it has that original magic I remember when I first began playing MMO's. I had a blast for some reason and even though I continue to laugh at the graphics, when I do start playing again I seem to forget to notice all the lack-luster effects and get sucked right in time after time. So, it's worth a solid defense, but only in the proper context.

Anyways, it's free and all you need is Java, so give it a shot . . . you should have Java installed on your machine anyways!

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3/10/10 8:52:41 PM
 
ThadiusMoor writes:

I used to play Runescape heavily, and my high score spot can atest to that fact (Thadius_Moor, search me if you like), but since about December 2008, I have quit and the reasons are simple...

Much of what made Runescape what it was has been removed, or altered beyond what can be considered "small changes" which people could adapt to.

The most recent change to the Hit Points skill is a prime example. No one wanted it and despite major opposition to it, Jagex seems content in disregarding the displeasure and plans to not go back.

This attitude of changing long-standiong traditions in terms of content and the "dumbing down" of the game is leading to a large segment of the veteran community to have a bad taste in their mouths, leading to the decisions to quit more and more frequently.

What the reviewer has neglected to cover is the unsettled and disgruntled opinions of much of the older class of player who have been there through all the changes and helped Jagex become what it is today. It is, with much dismay, a real slap in the face to the veterans when Jagex makes massive changes without consulting their biggest supporters, and then disregard those same players when they voice their displeasure with the decisions that have been made.

It is also a big mistake, in my opinion, for Jagex to continue to make the game more and more "Newb-Friendly" while disregarding the upper echilon of the skills and game contents in order to attract new players.

If Jagex really cared about it's customers, they would do all they could to ensure all players are served well, at all levels of play rather than strictly focusing on the bottom half of the game as they have been doing ever-so frequently.

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3/11/10 3:04:25 PM
 
Battlestorm writes:


Originally posted by ThadiusMoor
Much of what made Runescape what it was has been removed, or altered beyond what can be considered "small changes" which people could adapt to.

This attitude of changing long-standiong traditions in terms of content and the "dumbing down" of the game is leading to a large segment of the veteran community to have a bad taste in their mouths, leading to the decisions to quit more and more frequently.

It is also a big mistake, in my opinion, for Jagex to continue to make the game more and more "Newb-Friendly" while disregarding the upper echilon of the skills and game contents in order to attract new players.

If Jagex really cared about it's customers, they would do all they could to ensure all players are served well, at all levels of play rather than strictly focusing on the bottom half of the game as they have been doing ever-so frequently.


I agree whole-hearte . . . hold on a second while I wipe the tear from my eye. Seriously though, if only we had more MMORPG veterans willing to speak up. I think the problem is that Veterans, sick of the way things have progressed, simply leave.

I have (as I'm sure you have too) seen this with so many games. That is, the game is flawed, but people continue to play and instead of fixing things the devs make the cardinal mistake of dumbing down the game to attract newbs . . . or worse yet, they cater to the wrong crowd of complainers (likely newbs who have already gotten mixed up in the game and think it's "too hard"). Removing KoS rules in Vanguard come to mind as does all but destroying cross-classing in Asheron's Call 2.

Great comment. Those words simply aren't said enough.

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3/12/10 9:35:01 AM
 
congrs writes:

Those words simply aren't said enough.

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4/26/10 11:28:57 AM
 
omfgowned writes:

I've quit the game ever since PVP was totally ruined. Some say it was ruined recently but it was really ruined with runescape 2 (/fail.) Runescape 1 can't be beat, and still play played it on private servers until they fell in popularity/jagex ddosing them.

Loved taking my old rune mage (45def 51mage, combat lvl 30) into lvl 10 wild and doing full bank runs of r2h's from 1 def noobs...

 

 

RS2 sucks my nuts. From a player starting in late 02, that hits jagex pretty hard n says allot.

 

Skip this game.

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6/06/10 7:06:51 PM
 
CHAOSQUALL writes:

I have played since 2001 i have played on and off, i allways enjoy playing it, i have been playing other games atm got bored after 9 years or so lol.

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6/24/10 5:48:24 AM
 
Neckty writes:

they actually do have a group play system. its in daemonheim. you can group and go dungeonering.

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7/28/10 10:19:51 PM
 
Tajwall writes:

Was this guy okay? Jagex is just taking up a crabload of money because their idea of "an f2p skill" is mostly P2P.

MILLIONS of runescape players were aggervated at jagex because of the huge mass that commonly takes up your bank while you use it during your p2p period. It added up even more whenever "Dungeoneering" was announced to be fully f2p, when jagex lied. Not only that, the mods are mute happy! I was muted for calling someone stupid, and what else is ridiculous: They censor worrds for no reason. sort of like Nexon and DFO.

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12/26/10 5:38:16 PM
 
tJunt writes:

They are bringing back the wildy and getting rid of the trade limit though. 

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1/09/11 12:49:12 PM
 
Akechta writes:
Originally posted by dragon1613

Now imagine this, runescape with WASD movement with great graphics, decent PvP system, no trade limit and polished just as well as WoW = dream game..

AWMG! That would be so amazing. That, mixed with the massive amount of content and always-growing playerbase, would make Runescape / Jagex / Whatever completely obliterate all other MMO's!

Though the removal of free trade and PvP didn't do much in terms of making me quit, it destroyed a huge amount of their playerbase, which took Jagex a very long while to rebuild. The final thing that put me off was getting 99 mining.

It took me three months of playing 6+ hours a day (Which I say WAS NOT cool on my health) and I had to mine 130,000 gold ore (That's a lot for anyone that doesn't play). When I finally got 99 my playtime was cut in half to around 3 hours a day (much healthier).

Then, when my membership expired, I stopped playing because my parents wouldn't let me re-sub and sell my dragon set and other members-only items.

Now that there is a very highly possible chance that Jagex are bringing back the wilderness and free trade, I might just start playing again. Or I might just stick to my little private server (RSPS just reset economy and I lost 813M cash. Not cool).

People can make so much money luring, pking, staking and scamming! (Not that I scam -.-)

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1/09/11 1:37:37 PM
 
Akechta writes:
Originally posted by Devour

It's more than monotonous. And the fact it's actually handwaved in the review...

Not to any real extent. When you're able to trade things that matter to a newbie to a newbie, they're often at the same level as you or better and don't need it.

lol. "Another grandmaster quest and overhauled the loot for a minigame that was already there." Let's see how far apart the content updates for Runescape have been, and how much they have contributed:

Game Updates Barbarian Assault Improvements 19-Jan-2010 - Very little added, really, some new WEAPON COLOURS to an old weapon. OMFGWTFBBQSOCOOL 

This one I can agree with you on. Kind of. A lot of people actually enjoy looking good and the weapon-changing option was a good idea.


Game Updates Nomad’s Requiem 11-Jan-2010 - Reward is crap, can't be bothered looking at the quest. Probably another "fetch this, kill high level mob, fetch that, do puzzle as planned out on tip.it".

The reward is not actually crap, the blue and red prayer capes you receive give a very large boost to your prayer - would be very useful in PKing and the works if free trade and wildy was returned. And if you want more thrill out of the quest, GTFO any fansites that have all the answers and figure it out for yourself. Makes Runescape much more enjoyable if you don't copy your neighbours answers.

 

Game Updates Kuradal's Dungeon 08-Dec-2009 - First off, a month between these two updates? Wow. Especially since this update is just a cavern with mobs that Jagex couldn't even be bothered to reskin put in.

This 'cavern with mobs' has helped people all around the world train their slayer and progress a bit quicker in the game.


Game Updates The Temple at Senntisten 03-Dec-2009 - Appears to be an awful quest.

Appears to be an awful quest? Come on. How do you know what it would be like if you haven't even tried it? Don't judge a book by it's cover.


Game Updates Potions, Spells and Runes 17-Nov-2009 - Over three weeks between this content update and the one above, looks like Jagex is making a habit of it. Enormously disappointing update, again. A few more potions, four extra spells and a few rune changes. YAWN.

The extra potions are high-level content, which everyone has been waiting for. Also, they are untradable, so they remain exclusive to herblore-nuts only. The four extra spells are good combat attacks that people can use to train their magic for free at FoG. And the rune changes? A bit pointless in my honest opinion. Score one to you.

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1/09/11 1:55:06 PM
 
Akechta writes:
Originally posted by Sup3rnova

Runescape Classic is not open at all they locked in back in 2004-2005 so that new characters couldnt be created which resulted in the downfall of the game.

Runescape classic was crap. It was locked BECAUSE IT WAS REPLACED BY A BETTER VERSION OF THE GAME.

And It has been unlocked for several weeks ON TWO OCCASIONS where people that created a classic account count always log in to classic even while the game was locked.

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1/09/11 1:58:35 PM
 
rathpunks writes:

to be honest unless your a member it takes forever to get anywhere in this game, i find its so cram packed with botters there isnt much space for the others who actually play it, plus because of so many botters if your spotted with a group of them or someone hacks your account and bots with your account they perminatly baned you with no warning to change password as you may have been hacked, or to say saty away from there, they just plane permibanned you. and to make it worse there appeal offence system doesnt work as your left waiting months before you even get a reply. i get this knowlage from my own exsperiance of comming back on after a week off being told i was banned for macroing when iv never used one in my life as it makes the game boring


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9/12/11 2:19:29 PM
 
ScottXD writes:

Bots are gone, it owns again.

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Ninjasam17 writes:

Wildy is back!

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